One woman has sparked a heated debate over whether women are “toxic” — after claiming that many men favor men over their own gender.
The unnamed woman, presumably British, went to the parenting forum mumsnet writing that she has witnessed more bullying, gossip and passive-aggressive interactions in female-dominated environments.
She added that she believes women will let men get away with more things than their female counterparts, adding that some women also prefer their own sons over their daughters.
While some agreed with her and said they would prefer working with men for this reason, others said she was over-generalizing.
An unnamed woman, presumably British, said on the parenting forum Mumsnet that she witnessed more bullying, gossip and passive-aggressive interactions in female-dominated environments. Stock image
The woman began by saying that she didn’t mean to imply that all women are poisonous, and that she considered herself a feminist and “sisterhood” advocate.
“The more behavior I see from women, the more I start to stray from seeing them as allies,” she said.
“I have worked in female dominated industries all my life and have witnessed constant cliques, gossip, power plays, passive aggressiveness and outright bullying. I had to quit my last job because it affected my mental health so badly,” she added.
She noted that her current job, which she started in 2021, in a team with an equal number of men and women, shows none of those problems.
The woman added that she believes women will let men get away with more things than their female counterparts, and went on to say that some women also prefer their own sons over their daughters.
“To me personally, it’s very clear how women prefer men over their own gender, no matter how much ‘female empowerment’ and ‘Women Supporting Women’ is preached these days.
“For example, they let men get away with mistakes they wouldn’t let other women get away with. Male incompetence is often seen as “cute,” while a woman’s same behavior would be laughed at or laughed at,” she said.
She added that she believes this favoritism is also spreading in the home, with mothers “worshipping” their sons while “bullying and abusing their daughters.”
“I now think back to my own childhood and I can remember many occasions when my mother resigned me to something, while supporting my male siblings to do the same,” she said.
“There were also a lot of cunning, underhanded insults that I didn’t realize at the time, that were never aimed at my brothers,” she added.
Many agreed with her, some said they would rather work with men than women for these reasons.
Many agreed with her, some said they would rather work with men than women for these reasons
“I wouldn’t say that women necessarily prefer men. But having spent most of my early life working in male-dominated workplaces and then transitioning to a female-dominated environment, all I can say is that I’d rather work with men every day,” said one.
And woe betide a woman if she is smart, slim, and attractive. I’ve seen women evicted from the workplace for these reasons. Men are guilty too,” wrote another.
‘I’ve never had a decent female boss. All four were somehow unpleasant to work for. The male bosses were a good mix, but overall they were decent and treated me well,” said one, referring to her female-dominated work environment as a “b****fest.”
‘I used to work with mostly women and that was terrible. A guy came over and he was so nice. My (ex) best friend is a toxic b****. I think women can be very supportive, but I think women can also be awful with each other. More than men,’ said one.
However, some said that the woman generalized excessively and that their own experience was different from hers.
Some said the woman was over-generalizing and their own experience was different from hers
“It’s not unreasonable to recognize that women can be just as bad as men, but it’s not a given that women usually excuse men or favor sons over daughters,” one said.
“Patriarchy wants us to fly at each other’s throats so that all our time is tied up, otherwise we could ORGANIZE ourselves, a very scary prospect,” said one.
“You make some valid points, but your thread title is too dramatic. Don’t women have enough probing right now? In fact, being a woman seems to be the punch bag of the 21st century,” one wrote.
‘You generalize too much. Groups of people can be toxic, individuals can be toxic, but women are certainly no more toxic than anyone else,” replied another.
“I think women and girls get an unnecessarily bad reputation for being ‘b*****’, but it’s based on upbringing, personality, values and education, not their gender,” she added.
“My husband works in a very male-dominated industry and the stories he comes home with and the emails he shows me are insane. So many fragile egos, d***-measuring matches, and just a constant attitude of aggression. It’s a miracle they get anything done,” said one of them.
“Humans are toxic, not women,” said another, adding, “Toxic is mild compared to what men do to people,” said another.
“I work in a place where we have to get on with it, the work is bigger and more important than individual egos, so I think these gossiping, c*tcliques come from a place where nothing is more important,” they added.
“I’ve met a lot of great women at work that I can disagree with professionally and we stay warm after that,” said one.
“Just focus on the fact that they have nothing more important in their lives than personal vendettas and bad-mouthing others,” said one.
‘I have only worked with 90% only women and 95% only men. The men are just as b***** & gossip & cliquey,’ said another.