Doc Gallows says he is leaving WWE, joining Impact Wrestling, returning to NJPW and hosting his own PPV host
On April 4, 2020, Doc Gallows and Karl Anderson were involved in the most talked-about match at WrestleMania when AJ Styles lost to The Undertaker in a Boneyard Match.
Surprisingly, just 12 days later, WWE released Gallows and Anderson during the COVID-19 pandemic. The duo resurfaced on July 18 as the latest signers of IMPACT Wrestling during their Slammubilee pay-per-view – but not before they filed a lawsuit with a revealing interview on their Talk ‘N Shop podcast that pulled back the curtain on their time. with the WWE, discussed participation in IMPACT Wrestling and their own upcoming pay-per-view Talk ‘N Shop A Mania that takes place on August 1.
Gallows sat down with Sporting News to close some gaps in their revealing interview, including what The OC’s Bullet Club found, tag team wrestling in WWE as they return to New Japan Pro Wrestling and the twists leading up to their debut at Slammeubile .
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Sporting News (SN): How was the feedback after the Talk ‘N Shop live stream?
Doc Gallows (DG): The feedback was really great. As for the negative things about the WWE I specifically said, it’s really water under the bridge, but I felt I had to say it. And then we were very excited to announce the move to sign with IMPACT Wrestling and of course Talk ‘N Shop A Mania, which we’re super excited about. It feels like struggling is getting a shot at with some new, new things to come and I’m very happy to be a part of that.
SN: I want to fill in a few gaps from the show. One is whether you were surprised at all that Triple H and Vince McMahon had no idea of your performance in New Japan Pro Wrestling before signing you.
DG: I think they knew we had some buzz because of the Bullet Club, so I think they saw it as an opportunity to brag two Bullet Club guys making some waves in NJPW. WWE has traditionally been looking for guys who do well outside of WWE. It doesn’t necessarily mean they are treated the same way they come in, because, as history has taught us, WWE likes to create its own stars, not necessarily to pre-existing stars. I don’t know what they expected from us. But you have to take what is handed to you and do your best with it.
SN: How many WWE programs did you watch before you signed?
DG: Not much. We were in our own bubble in New Japan because we were so busy.
SN: The reason I ask is that the prevailing thought is that WWE has little interest in the tag team division. But at the same time, it turned out that there was a revival when you arrived, as did teams like The Revival, The New Day, The Usos, etc.
DG: Certainly, man! We thought there was certainly hope, but when we got a glimpse of it, it went away. They’re a company that believes the appeal lies in the singles rivalry and that’s their thing. But struggling with tag teams matters, it just happens on a different channel.
SN: When you decided that you, Karl and AJ would form The Original Club as a shot at the Bullet Club, did you talk to friends in New Japan about that?
DG: I talk to the Young Bucks, Tama Tonga and Bad Luck Fale all the time. When we told them about The OC they said “good for you.” We always support each other. They had high hopes for it, just like us.
SN: You were very close to AEW and ended up burning them by quitting WWE. How has communication gone since then?
DG: I am so proud of those guys. When the AAC thing started and we saw the creative thing for Karl and me, we texted them and said, “Well, we did a good job. We made a bad decision. “Everyone is over it now and we can laugh about it. We knew that Cody, the Young Bucks, Kenny Omega and the rest wouldn’t let that fail. But we didn’t know it was going to be such a great success. It is good for professional wrestling.
SN: Was it good to see talent like EC3 and Eric Young come home to IMPACT, given how rarely were they used in WWE?
DG: EC3 looked like a million dollars and gave a great promo when he returned. IMPACT managed to play on his strengths and it was great to see him again. Fans are smart now and understand that talent thrives elsewhere, but not necessarily got a platform elsewhere. Eric Young is a perfect example of a man who was at the top of IMPACT and didn’t get a chance to show what he had in WWE. It is good for him to be at home. They are not a bunch of WWE rejections, they passed outside WWE.
SN: You also joined IMPACT in a time of uncertainty, and a lot of changes happened before Slamme’s anniversary aired. Tessa Blanchard left the company, and people like Joey Ryan and Michael Elgin were also removed for the # SpeakingOut campaign of women tackling sexual abuse and abuse in professional wrestling.
DG: Surely. I spoke to Scott D’Amore every day and checked in when something popped up because it felt like their creativity was being turned upside down every week. But I think if we bullied our arrival and all the surprises it helped build the buzz so we could become number 1 on Twitter the night of Slammeisje. It’s a fun challenge because we’re not WWE and we have to climb our own mountains. We are ready for the challenge.
SN: When will you return to New Japan?
DG: We wait for the world to open. We try to find dates so that we can achieve a high return. It will be a big problem when we come back. What you get is the old school Gallows and Anderson that made you like us as a team. The Disneyworld feeling is gone. We are back at what we can do best.
SN: But the Bullet Club is completely different now …
DG: Yes it is! I did not see EVIL coming at all. The Bullet Club scenery is completely different. We will see who is welcome and who is not. But it’s been a long time since we’ve been together and I’m excited about it. I was blown away by EVIL participation. They don’t have many bad ideas there, so we’ll have to see if he can perform and how it all works out. The long game is where it is and when you look at Gedo’s booking. You may not get where the viewer expects to go, but it is always surprising and enticing. It’s an old fashioned approach that works. I like to watch things unfold slowly and not the crash TV you sometimes see in WWE. They will turn on something soon, which I don’t quite understand.
SN: Let’s talk about Talk ‘N Shop A Mania. When did this idea first occur to you?
DG: Well, I just really felt that the first season of Southpaw Wrestling we did at WWE was really good and the second was not. There was not much interest in it anymore and there were many changes. I feel like they stole my Sex Ferguson thing and put on a show about it. But it never ended. We just got out of a cinematic match with The Undertaker and we’re fired 12 days later. If we don’t make fun of this, we are complete idiots.
Four days after we were released, I told my friends to do a pay per view and wrote it down on my dining table. I had to do it, whether it was a hit or a huge failure.
SN: Was everyone behind it from the beginning?
DG: No. A behind-the-scenes documentary is coming out and you’ll see a lot of guys show up at my house who don’t know why the hell they were there. But they’re my buddies, so I flew them down, gave them a payday and told them we’re going to have fun. Much of this will be that you see TV struggling characters who normally play something seriously, get out of it completely and do something different. It’s a parody. It’s meant to make you smile and take 90 minutes out of this crazy world around us and enjoy the follies of professional wrestling. I like serious pro wrestling, but I also love this side. I mean, the main event is a Boner Yard Match, so you can’t expect anything serious. This is also TV-MA and not intended for the children. If you buy it and hate it, you’ll only lose $ 14.95, so it’s good.
SN: Did this eventually charge your battery?
DG: 100 percent. You can get burned out in a company like the WWE, whether that’s the travel or creative direction. We have seen it over the years. But when you give it up and go somewhere it’s more relaxed, you remember why you fell in love with it in the first place.
SN: Where do you see yourself and Karl around this time next year?
DG: Talk N Shop A Mania 37, I hope! I hope we can get out of this pandemic and have shows with fans. We thrive on their energy, whether you love us or hate us. We just want to entertain fans live again.